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There is information circulating that Can Am / BRP will soon be releasing a side by side product much like the Polaris RZR.
WILL CAN AM RELEASE A SIDE BY SIDE?
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I'm gonna say yes. Every other manufacturer has one out now...even the slowest to react company...Honda. It's a market thats growing faster than atv's right now. If they want a chance at not being left behind they better release one. :icon_thumleft:
Especially one with a better front suspension than the Outlander.
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Especially one with a better front suspension than the Outlander.
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:sign10:Koko said:
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I wish someone would do something as sporty as the Razor
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My belief is they will. If they don't, I'd bet a case of your favorite drinks it is because of the current global market.
I've read too much, including an interview with the BRP CEO stating that a side-by-side was in their plans. And I do believe they will build something to compete with the razor. JMHO.
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I think they have to, no matter what the global market currently demands. Their market share is already struggling with what they currently have. Understandably everyone else is in the same line; however, they have a lot of overhead from some financial papers that I have read which is causing them a lot of issues. Very similar to what the Big 3 are going through now.
Can Am seems to be basing a lot of their market exposure and penetration on the racing teams and HP aspect. The foreign companies have shut down many of their racing teams and focused on other aspects of marketing and advertising to cut overhead. Additionally back in December prior to things getting really bad they cut nearly 1000 jobs and production by over 20% and consolidating several divisions of the company This all happened last year before things really got bad. To top that off, they recently have just asked for an 80 million dollar loan to consolidate their debt. This request had lowered their long term corporate credit rating with the S&P and made shareholders question the viability of the company.
Can Am has no where else to cut at this point. Hopefully we are on the rebound from the recession and they are able to pull through this. The good thing is, BRP has more to fall back on with the Evinrude, Johnson, Ski-Doo and Sea-Doo lines.
Can Am seems to be basing a lot of their market exposure and penetration on the racing teams and HP aspect. The foreign companies have shut down many of their racing teams and focused on other aspects of marketing and advertising to cut overhead. Additionally back in December prior to things getting really bad they cut nearly 1000 jobs and production by over 20% and consolidating several divisions of the company This all happened last year before things really got bad. To top that off, they recently have just asked for an 80 million dollar loan to consolidate their debt. This request had lowered their long term corporate credit rating with the S&P and made shareholders question the viability of the company.
Can Am has no where else to cut at this point. Hopefully we are on the rebound from the recession and they are able to pull through this. The good thing is, BRP has more to fall back on with the Evinrude, Johnson, Ski-Doo and Sea-Doo lines.
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from what I have heard is they are coming out with a 1000cc outlander. They were going to come out with a sxs at the same time but they are waiting a year for the 1000 to prove itself and then 2010 is going to be the release of the SxS...and I also heard that a 500 and a 650 outlanders (ONLY) are going to have powersteering...
But with BRP I have always learned believe it when you see it...
But with BRP I have always learned believe it when you see it...
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That's with all of the manufacturers.
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probably...but I couldnt say for sure..I only pay attention to BRP
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Stiffler, I can't say that I've heard the Outlander end of this rumor, but I "heard" from a "dealer" that the new SxS would possibly have a 990cc powerplant from one of their sleds. I'm not a sled guy and I never researched to even see if they have a 990cc sled motor. That would be classed as a 1000cc though.
Is it just me or does the rumor mill turn much more wickedly in the ATV industry verses...say the Auto industry? These guys are tight lipped for sure!
Is it just me or does the rumor mill turn much more wickedly in the ATV industry verses...say the Auto industry? These guys are tight lipped for sure!
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Well FWIW in all my dealing with manufacturers and dealers, I constantly hear the following:
Kawasaki is making an 850 EPS
Yamaha will be coming out with a Grizzly 990 twin.
BRP will be doing this, Suzuki is doing that...blah blah blah.
This happens every year, and the rumor mill just keeps on churning. Bottom line, we never know what they are going to come out with. These are heavily guarded corporate secrets. To leak the information would be to commit business suicide by letting your competition know what you were releasing.
In speaking with certain reps from a few of the companies, I have learned a little about how they think. Most of us want something bigger better and faster. We represent a small demographic compared to what their studies have shown as to what the rest of the market wants.
Kawasaki is making an 850 EPS
Yamaha will be coming out with a Grizzly 990 twin.
BRP will be doing this, Suzuki is doing that...blah blah blah.
This happens every year, and the rumor mill just keeps on churning. Bottom line, we never know what they are going to come out with. These are heavily guarded corporate secrets. To leak the information would be to commit business suicide by letting your competition know what you were releasing.
In speaking with certain reps from a few of the companies, I have learned a little about how they think. Most of us want something bigger better and faster. We represent a small demographic compared to what their studies have shown as to what the rest of the market wants.
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Thanks, and yes they are amazing machines. Unless you can see BRP or even the other manufacturers make something with the aforesaid mentioned and be able to keep the costs to a minimum in order to yield a profit I don't see any ground breaking products come out. Take the Thundercat for an example; it is the biggest ATV available on the market, which isn't selling too well.
Right now they are selling the ATV's. But where does the line get drawn in the sand? At $9,000 + and in an economic turndown as we are experiencing, will those $9G plus machines still sell this year? If you make something bigger and better, do you still thing it will cost the consumer $9G? My guess is no.
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