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I thought I'd post a poll to see what some of you guys would do if you were in the market for a 750 - 800 class Utility ATV.

No I'm not listing Yamaha. Why? They don't have a 750 - 800 class ATV and they're too expensive. Simple as that. (And they always win every poll. 8))

So feel free to cast a vote and express your hearts desire.

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I would have to go with the Brute Force.

The outlander is to wide for the Utah paiute trails 50 inch maximum width.
I dont like the Suzuki's "torque sensing" diff system.
I dont think I would like the Sportsman's "I will tell you when 4X4 is needed" system.

I would like to go further but the wife and grandbabies are yelling at me to take them to breakfast..
 

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From the atv's listed, I'd go with the Polaris 850 XP for the anti-kickback steering and the rolled IRS.

That being said....I'd want to do a side-by-side comparison with the Grizz 700, which is $400 less, and has plenty of power for my needs.
 

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Thanks for the responses. I knew their would be at least one reference to a grizz. Don't misunderstand me, I love Yamaha. They have a well balanced machine BUT am I wrong in thinking that for $8,000 - $8,500 a man should get more than 686cc's? It seems ridiculous to buy a 700 class ATV for the same price you would buy a 800 class ATV for. Feel free to elaborate on why it makes sense to do that, because I just can't see it.

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Okay, I just did a little more research.

Outlander @ $10,599 is out of the question (for me anyway).

Sportsman XP 850 EFI
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Grizzly 700 FI w/EPS @ $8999 would have to really impress me.

Kawasaki Brute Force @ 750 AXi @ $8199 is still a bit pricey, but getting better.

Sportsman 800 EFI @ $7999 might be a good choice if the new design is less bulky and easier to manuever. I personally like the auto 4x4. My 700 was excellent in the mud.

King Quad 750 AXi @ 7599 is definitely worth a good look.

I'm not big on horsepower. I just need enough to get me up the mountain without flipping me over backwards when I hit the throttle. After looking at the choices a little closer, it would probably come down to the Sportsman 800 or the KQ 750, depending on which felt more comfortable and nimble.
 

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Well I understand your statement BG. I really shopped prior to buying my Grizzly 700. I looked at all of the brands on the market, and test rode many of them. When I narrowed it down to the final few, it came down to attention to detail (welds, plastic etc.) and reputation. Reputation meaning what others had to say about the vehicle. I knew that the Grizzly was a solid performing platform as well as the BF 750. And the BF 750 had larger motor and cost less money. Obviously ride quality and handling convinced me that the Grizz was a better vehicle.

The Polaris is a fantastic lookin machine. All the new things done to it really make it worth looking into. I am personally not Polaris fan and here mixed reports on reliability, but you can take that for what it's worth. My other choice being the Can Am....I still thing this quad is over priced. It is nice, but no matter how bad I would love to have a Renegade, I have a hard time paying the wanted coin for such a vehicle. Keep in mind though, I only payed 6800 for my Grizz when I got it.

I think you should just get what YOU want and can afford. You will have done all the necessary research you needed to. And let's face it, you have already made up your mind deep down inside.
 

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Great post Explorer, however, I have to correct the price of the Can-Am. BRP Site list the MSRP as $8,949USD. Click here for the 800R page. Anyway's, I can see the auto 4x4 system being cool but I have that nagging fear of it in the back of my mind. To me that screams "Hey! I'm a fast trail quad!" I'm more in the market for a working quad that I can get some fun out of too. I could be completely off my rocker being pariniod of an auto enguaging 4x4...but am I? Another thing the with Polaris is the weight. How much of those extra cc's are consumed just lugging that monster around? And to touch on reliability, I think Yamaha and Honda would win the votes all day. I'm the kind of guy, though, that takes very good care of my equipment. Some people accuse me of having OCD. I call it respecting the dollar that I have earned. If you ever see me in a big mud hole....stop me and take the beer out of my hand because that just isn't the kind of riding I call fun (on a quad).

Oh yeah...GDub...I really don't know what I want this time. :dontknow:
 

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BATTLEGUN said:
Great post Explorer, however, I have to correct the price of the Can-Am. BRP Site list the MSRP as $8,949USD. Click here for the 800R page.
Somehow I ended up on the Canadian page instead of the US page.

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Anyway's, I can see the auto 4x4 system being cool but I have that nagging fear of it in the back of my mind. To me that screams "Hey! I'm a fast trail quad!"
Nothing to do with speed, just laziness. Same as picking auto tranny vs. manual tranny.

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I'm more in the market for a working quad that I can get some fun out of too.
If that's the case, manual 4x4 may be the better choice.

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Another thing the with Polaris is the weight. How much of those extra cc's are consumed just lugging that monster around?
I'll give you that one. Popos are heavy.

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And to touch on reliability, I think Yamaha and Honda would win the votes all day.
Agreed.

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If you ever see me in a big mud hole....stop me and take the beer out of my hand because that just isn't the kind of riding I call fun (on a quad).
I don't play in the mud holes either, but sometimes you gotta get thru one.
 

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what was the purpose of that?
 

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More specific?
I am trying to figure out why you quoted every post Battlegun said and put them all together and re-posted them...
I cant see anything out of line that Battlegun said or any obvious reason to take the time to gather all his replies.
So, I wondered why you did. thats all..
 

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I didn't intend to infer that anything BG said was out of line. I was simply sharing my thoughts about his thoughts. He made some very good points and I was simpky continuing the discussion. Sorry if my post came across as anything but friendly.
 

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OIC.. ok.. now it makes sense to me..
I wasnt trying to be out of line either but I couldnt understand why you would post all his replies, but now I do...
I guess I should look closer before I speak.. A problem I have had for many years.. lol
 

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I didn't intend to infer that anything BG said was out of line. I was simply sharing my thoughts about his thoughts. He made some very good points and I was simpky continuing the discussion. Sorry if my post came across as anything but friendly.
This is the qoutinest thread ever man! :icon_thumleft: If you quote a quote that was quoted by another quote, would you still be quoting? LOL. Dude your post was fine. I enjoyed reading your responses.

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OIC.. ok.. now it makes sense to me..
I wasnt trying to be out of line either but I couldnt understand why you would post all his replies, but now I do...
I guess I should look closer before I speak.. A problem I have had for many years.. lol
They make medicine for that. :laughing4: LOL Just kidding.

LMAO. In all seriousness; Gdub suggested that my mind was already made up. But in all honesty it really isn't. The final decision will be made after riding the top contenders. As of right now this minute I'm really leaning toward the Brute. Why? V-Twin power :headbang:, manual 4x4 select. Decent reputation. My second pick right now is leaning at the Outty. I just can't get past that seemingly tiny frame and the Viscoloc 4x4 scares me a little. I've seen videos of this system failing miserably. And for the highest price tag, it should not spark such fear in the eye of the consumer. I haven't enough research to narrow down to the third choice.

If I could just buy one of each! Common lottery! ::)
 

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They make medicine for that. :laughing4: LOL Just kidding.
I took my meds.. I took my meds.. I took my meds....
 

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OK...I won't quote any quotes that were previously quoted. :laughing7:

In reality, you probably can't go wrong with any of the bikes you listed. Like GW said, find the one that fits YOU best and go with it. Good luck and many miles of enjoyment with whichever you choose.
 

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Make no mistake, I will get the quad I want. I was just curious as to what others would get and why. When you start off not having a clue as to what you want, listening to the opinions of others can help tremendously.

And sense all eyes are on me now for my decison I should make it known that I have been known to take a very long time to make a decision.

Thanks to all who have posted (or quoted) and anyone else feel free to chime in.
 

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Well I didn't vote cuz I can't pick 2 items but I would say the Brute or the Outlander. However, if it were me I would go with a gade 800R. Let me put it on the record saying that I've never even sat on any of those 3 and only seen the Brute in person. I would tend to lean towards the Can-Ams simply b/c the Outty has the same engine as the Gade and obviously from 3TV's experience and review of it thus far, the Gade is a powerhouse which is very intruiging to me. Personally I believe I would go with a gade and put some racks on it to carry small loads. if carrying big loads onboard was a necessity, then I would drop back to the Outlander and that would be my final answer.

When I was considering a gade, the Viscolock made me nervous also but simply b/c I read some threads in other boards that said it could take a couple of seconds for it to engage. However, Can-Am improved the speed of response on the Visco last year and from what I've heard, it's even more improved for the current model. If this is a hold-up for you from deciding on the Outlander, why don't you ask 3TV for full input on the Visco setup. I've briefly inquired with him when he first got the Gade and he implied he liked it and that it worked fine so far.

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Bman, I was secretly waiting for 3TV to post something here 8). I have talked to him about the gade and how he thought the outty would perform based on his experince with the gade. The gade and outty are pretty much the same quad minus plastics, suspension, and tires/wheels, and price (with the R models of course).

I know if I were to get a Gade, it would never get used to it's full potentional. There is more of a chance of that with a true utilitarian. <--- Is that a real word?
 
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