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Renegade CVT Exhaust Snorkel

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ok, i finished this up saturday, then went to a bachelor party. i'm somewhat recovered now, so here we go. front plastic and side panels need removed first.

the stock setup is simply a small outlet that rises a couple inches, turns downward and terminates under the seat. i guess the idea is, there's enough pressure blowing out that water shouldn't enter back in. i've heard otherwise, so that's why i'm running it up higher. secured by a 10mm bolt.

stock outlet
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001658.jpg


cvt with stock outlet removed
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001659.jpg


put a 2" rubber 90 degree fitting on the cvt outlet
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place a short section of 2" abs (approx 3", but do what works for you) in the other end of the rubber 90 and add a second rubber 90 degree fitting, aiming the second one towards the shifter. try to keep the first rubber 90 as far away from the exhaust as possible. i wrapped it with thermo-tec heat shielding tape after taking the picture. try to finish the wrap in the area where the hose clamp will keep it from un-raveling as time passes.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001676.jpg


from that 90, i used some 2" inside diameter hose that i found at lowes. it's pretty thick and looks to have some type of mesh embedded in it. i thought about using a straight section of radiator hose, but napa wanted $11/ft and it had very little flex to it. the stuff from lowes was $3-$4/ft and i knew i'd need it to flex around the shifter linkage. here's a couple pics looking down, with the side panel back on.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001677.jpg

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once again, you'll need to measure the hose to see what works for you - it was around two and a half feet for me. one of the problems with "stealth" snorkeling the cvt exhaust is the heat and belt dust that will be expelled. if left under the pod, your cvt intake and engine intake will be pulling in the warm air and dust. i've also read of the speedo display fogging up from the excessive heat. so, i ran it up as high as the intake, then turned it down to expel the exhaust down and out the side, away from everything. considering the stock location, even if i were in water deeper than the point where it terminates, the water level would still need to be above the highest point. i also feel the pressure would make it difficult for water to run back through the exhaust.

so i ran two hard 90s to bring it up, then forward. then a short section of abs (maybe 5") and another hard 90 to turn it down towards the ground.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001680.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001681.jpg


from there i ran about an 8" section of the flexible hose downwards. it had a bit of a bend in the end so it worked out nicely, directing the airflow out to the side.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001683.jpg

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the entire cvt exhaust snorkel
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001684.jpg

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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001686.jpg


in order to fit this under the pod, i had to make some changes up there. the bracket that the ecm is attached to was shortened. the part i removed (red arrows) was only being used to zip tie some of the wiring to it.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001664e-2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001666.jpg

i removed the grey connector after taking this pic (dremeled the backside of the rivet)
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001665.jpg


also need to remove a little plastic, leaving enough to retain it's structural integrity.
before
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001667.jpg

after
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001668.jpg


i also re-located the brake fluid reservoir. you can drop it through it's original location and route it back up through wherever you want to put it, without disconnecting the line.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001694.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/4stangs4/IM001695.jpg

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just like the intake, abs cement all abs to abs connections as well as the abs to flexible hose. silicone all of the rubber connections and secure with hose clamps. check and double check that all of the plastic fits before making it permanent. it is a little tricky to run the flexible hose past the shifter linkage without causing too much binding. there is a sweet spot, it just takes patience. i used a zip tie to keep the 2nd rubber elbow elevated a little, so it didn't interfere with the linkage going into the tranny. i also added some of the heat shielding tape to the flexible hose where it passes by the radiator hose, near the shifter.

i'll give this setup a good workout and post any issues that i run into. btw, i ordered frogzskin inserts for my airbox lid. i feel this is better than actually snorkeling the inlet tube - i'll just block it off and draw air in through the highest point in the lid. the frogzskin screens are made of a material that won't allow water or snow through. i talked to the owner of the company, who seems like a great guy, and he explained that there is roughly a 30% airflow restriction in the screen. i will be using two 1.5" (inside diameter) screens at first, an i have a third one ready if it seems to be less than the stock amount of airflow. will make a new post when they arrive and get some pics.
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BATTLEGUN
You're getting that gade set up bro. I don't have any questions yet, but when I go to do this, I may have a few questions. I may follow your lead too and post the install so people can see it done on the outlander.

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thx, forgot to mention that i ran the vent/overflow from the fuel tank and the vent from the tranny up to the pod as well. left the crankcase breather in the airbox, but i plan on putting a barb-to-barb fitting, running a couple loops of hose around the air filter elbow and putting a breather filter on the end, elevated. will take pics when i add the frogzskin screens.
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the cvt exhaust is a real pain i have about 15 to 20 hours in mine. vary similar to your's but mine protrudes threw the speedo. i was afraid of all that hot air blowing back in under the pod.was not a big fan of cutting on the new10,000 dollar machine.
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25TH INFANTRY said:
the cvt exhaust is a real pain i have about 15 to 20 hours in mine. vary similar to your's but mine protrudes threw the speedo. i was afraid of all that hot air blowing back in under the pod.was not a big fan of cutting on the new10,000 dollar machine.
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i definitely hear the PITA, 25th. i may make some changes if i feel that hot air is making its way back up to the intakes. you'll have to get some pics up here. it's good to see some guys from the other forums giving this site some views! do you ever make it out to wellsville?
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yea ive been a member since September 08, but never really posted all that much, wasn't much can am traffic till now. frequently visit though. not quite sure where Wellisville is, near Wayne?
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wellsville is a little north of steubenville. type it in on youtube and you'll see what an off-road paradise it is. ;;t;;
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GRIZZLYWIZARD
You guys aren't too far from me. I am up around Steubenville pretty often. I am down near Marietta, OH.
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well, if you guys ever venture over into pa, i'd be more than happy to show you some awseome trails.

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stray said:
well, if you guys ever venture over into pa, i'd be more than happy to show you some awseome trails.

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Sweet! Same here. We are heading to H&M tomorrow morning for the rest of the week.
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that's great, i hope you guys have a good time - weather should be perfect!
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Stray, awesome post, pics. n' all! I have yet to snorkel anything on my gade but am on the look out for stealth diy kits. yours looks pretty nice compared to others I've seen. Thanks for the great pictures, I will be following suit, What I really want to know is what you did with your CVT intake and fuel breather, as I'm stuck waiting with my tank hanging out of the gade and don't want to have to deal with this again!!! Also do you know if I can just get a fuel filter from an auto store, or is it a high flow/efficency? Do you know? Once again, thanks for the in depth post and pics. that correspond to all points.:thumbup:
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i'm not sure about the fuel filter. if it were me, i'd probably get an oem filter from the dealer. as for the fuel breather and overflow, i disconnected the T fitting and ran an extension up into the gauge pod, then reconnected the T, letting the overflow hang down towards the front diff and kept the breather up high. also ran the tranny breather up to the same location. since i blocked off the stock air inlet to the airbox, i left the pcv breather in it's stock location. hope this helps, feel free to hit me up with any other questions and i'll do my best to help you out!
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Alright so I am planning on giving this snorkel setup a try tomorrow.. Couple things... First, the 90 degree rubber elbows that you bought, are they readily available in the plumbing section of any hardware store? I am not familiar with them. Second, the flexible hose you used, did it have any other general purpose so I have an idea where I can find it? I live in Canada so we don't have a lowes here, which means I'll have to shop around a bit tomorrow..

Lastly, did you cement/silicone the whole snorkel together apart from the machine, and then slide it into place afterward or did you cement one piece in at a time to connect the whole system? These might be novice questions, but I'll admit I'm very new to snorkelling/plumbing....
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Sweigh said:
Alright so I am planning on giving this snorkel setup a try tomorrow.. Couple things... First, the 90 degree rubber elbows that you bought, are they readily available in the plumbing section of any hardware store? I am not familiar with them. Second, the flexible hose you used, did it have any other general purpose so I have an idea where I can find it? I live in Canada so we don't have a lowes here, which means I'll have to shop around a bit tomorrow..

Lastly, did you cement/silicone the whole snorkel together apart from the machine, and then slide it into place afterward or did you cement one piece in at a time to connect the whole system? These might be novice questions, but I'll admit I'm very new to snorkelling/plumbing....
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the 90s are readily available in plumbing. the hose is either spa hose or shop vac.all availible at home depot if you have that. put it all together mark all separate ends with a line to assure it fits right, then cement that baby. i would fit it once or twice to assure its where it needs to be before you cement it. i would also buy a few extra parts and pieces just in case, so your not running around all day. i used a few things i dident think i would need, then take back what you dont use.
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Alright good to know. What did you end up paying for the rubber elbows? the one place I found them online has them listed at 22 bucks each...so about 15-16 bucks american. Does that seem about right? Also, just so I understand you correctly, are you cementing the entire snorkel together THEN mounting it? or are you cementing it into place piece by piece after you've checked and rechecked the position? I'd like to know the order I put it in so I don't mess it up.
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Sweigh said:
Alright good to know. What did you end up paying for the rubber elbows? the one place I found them online has them listed at 22 bucks each...so about 15-16 bucks american. Does that seem about right? Also, just so I understand you correctly, are you cementing the entire snorkel together THEN mounting it? or are you cementing it into place piece by piece after you've checked and rechecked the position? I'd like to know the order I put it in so I don't mess it up.
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elbows were in the 7 to 8 dollar range. yes i monted mine all as one piece. also keep all the old parts and pieces you cut, do not throw them away. i have reworked mine a few times to make it better little here little there. as time passes and you see others you may want to change it up.
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Thanks for the advice.. I'm sure I'll have more questions as the project progresses tomorrow, so stay tuned :beer"
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yeah, the rubber 90's will be in with all of the other ABS fittings, around $7 each. i'm not sure about the specific use for the 2" flexible hose i bought. it's clear, seems like it's double wall, about 1/4" thick with a string or wire criss-crossing between the two walls. lowes had a bunch of different types and sizes, probably any place that sells building materials will have a decent selection. i didn't glue the whole assembly together outside the bike, then put it in. not sure how 25th ID was able to accomplish that. on the cvt intake, i glued all of the hard ABS pieces except the uppermost elbow first. then installed the glued pieces, siliconing the rubber pieces to the stock cvt inlet and finally, glued the uppermost elbow in the direction that i wanted it to face. for the cvt exhaust, i glued the final short piece of flexible hose into the ABS 90, then worked backwards. it takes sometime to get it so it doesn't interfere with the shifter linkage. patience is a virtue...
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Well after half a day of thorough shopping around, I was not able to find any braided vinyl tubing with a 2" inside diameter(I did find some with 2" outside diameter though... but I didn't get it). I also could not find any place that carried 2" rubber elbows. I went to all the top places in town that were open and they didn't carry it. My last options are two wholesale suppliers of plumbing equipment which aren't open until Monday. I hate the Canadian plumbing supply market.
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