I'm not blowing my own horn here but earlier this year I was jumping my 08 bruteforce and was just too hard on the old girl and broke the frame. In fact I broke the front shock tower off.Well to keep a perfect record I was riding my 700 vforce last Sunday and after landing a 25 ft double she bucked me off and decided to commit suicide hit a tree at 30 mph and broke the frame. I guess I need more practice or an indestructible quad. Hense the reason they let me torture parts I always push the engineered limitations of the quads and the products we are so fortunate to review.