[BATTLEGUN]

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PENDING REVIEW: DALTON INDUSTRIES LLC / CLUTCH KIT FOR 2009 OUTLANDER 800R XT

I can’t find many things to complain about on the 2009 Outlander 800R, but there a few things that I would change. As you will read when I release the 3rd and final part of the Outlander review, the low-end of the Outlander seems to be the weakest point of the power curve. You must understand, though, compared to most quads the Outlander is very strong in the low-end. But the low-end seems to be the weak point. This will be better explained in the upcoming “Part 3” release. I have been looking for something that might cure the low-end “jerk” or “snap” and give the quad the “punch” it needs in the low end to match the incredibly powerful mid and hi-range. I also want something I can install with stock tires that addresses these issues.

My quest led me to one company over and over again. That company is Dalton Industries of Canada. Dalton Industries makes a kit (DBO 800) that promises smooth engagement with an increase in low-end AND mid-range performance without sacrificing top-end speed for the 800 Outlander. Now that fit the bill precisely! After a reassuring conversation with Dalton the kit and an alternative spring was in the mail. I received the kit within a week of them sending it AND IT CAME FROM CANADA. That was impressive enough but when I opened the package I found a very nicely marketed box and a nicely marketed bag containing the parts I had requested. The parts in the box and bag appear to very well designed and of professional standard. I am very impressed right out of the box. Dalton also included a very well written installation guide with a quality that will land it a spot in my shop manual. I also received a very nice catalog highlighting Dalton’s other products and was pleased to see they offer a lot more than just Outlander kits. Dalton Industries has built quite the inventory of professional clutch components for manufacturers such as Kawasaki, Polaris, Yamaha, Arctic Cat, and Suzuki and of course BRP. They also offer quality products for snowmobiles. If that wasn’t enough, they offer a line of specialty tools for clutch tuning and work and to top it all off, Dalton’s customer service was off the chart. I was immediately addressed by a professional individual who not only knew the products, but knew their way around a CVT. What more could a fella ask for?

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In the near future, ATVT readers will find my review of this product right here. I plan on giving timed runs without the kit and again with the kit to help document the changes and I will experiment with both springs. Further down the road, I will add heavier tires to the Quad and adjust the kit to compensate for them and give yet another report. I am very pleased to be bringing this review to ATVT Readers and very excited with the first modification of ATVT’s 2009 Outlander 800R XT.


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355 Vimy Road,
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[GRIZZLYWIZARD]

Having ridden the Can Am Outlander and hearing how awesome the power on this machine was, i was very unimpressed and somewhat let down to it's performance, especially on the bottom end part of the power curve where most utilities spend most of their time.

I think that this is a much needed add on modification to the Can Am Outlander.
I can't wait to hear your reports.

 

[BATTLEGUN]

Having ridden the Can Am Outlander and hearing how awesome the power on this machine was, i was very unimpressed and somewhat let down to it's performance, especially on the bottom end part of the power curve where most utilities spend most of their time.

I think that this is a much needed add on modification to the Can Am Outlander.
I can't wait to hear your reports.

You are right on point. The 09 Outty CVT def. needs something. I have only rode my 09 and one 06 (or 07) outty. The difference in the two power curves are VERY obvious. I won't take anything away from the 09's mid to high end, but as you said, I think the Dalton Clutch kit is a much needed mod. I'm looking very forward to installing this product and giving the reports. My first report will be with the green spring. Then I will switch to the tan.

 

[1Bad1000Xxc]

BG, something you may consider is swapping the helix out for a 650 helix and then using the tan spring. From what I have read, the 650 helix raises the RPM engage level and the tan spring bring that back down to a normal level so it's not too high. The helixes can be ordered from a dealer.

I know quite a few people are doing this setup on the Gade when they do bigger tires. It just may be that the Outty needs it with the stock tire setup.

Buster

 

[BATTLEGUN]

BG, something you may consider is swapping the helix out for a 650 helix and then using the tan spring. From what I have read, the 650 helix raises the RPM engage level and the tan spring bring that back down to a normal level so it's not too high. The helixes can be ordered from a dealer.

I know quite a few people are doing this setup on the Gade when they do bigger tires. It just may be that the Outty needs it with the stock tire setup.

Buster

Interesting concept. If the Dalton doesn't do what I want, then I may try that. If I could get a smooth engagement I would be 50% satisfied. If I get more "torque" out of the low end AND a smooth engagement, then I'll be 100% satisfied.

 

[GRIZZLYWIZARD]

I am with Buster on this. Having a lot of experience now with the V clutch and it's ease of modifying I think that you will be dissapointed with the higher stall engagement. I hated it myself on my V, especially when you are trying to do something technical.

 

[BATTLEGUN]

I am with Buster on this. Having a lot of experience now with the V clutch and it's ease of modifying I think that you will be dissapointed with the higher stall engagement. I hated it myself on my V, especially when you are trying to do something technical.

I agree about a higher stall. That's why I have the tan spring as well. I think the higher stall spring is for larger tires. Regardless, I'm going to install both and get the data up for those who may need that higher stall. :icon_thumleft:

 

[BATTLEGUN]

WOW! HOLY SH__!!! Dudes I finally installed the Dalton kit and man...I never thought a kit would make that kind of difference!!!

 

[1Bad1000Xxc]

details???

 

[BATTLEGUN]

details???

Time...i'll give details in time. I can only say it engages better and the mid range pull is unreal.

 

[GRIZZLYWIZARD]

We need details!!!

 

[BATTLEGUN]

Isn't that what the review is for? Common man. You guys are worse than my kid at Christmas!

Here...I installed the tan spring with the steel rivits in the weights. (I also changed the one way bearings but that's another story.) The only difference (reportedly) in the green spring and the tan is the engagment RPMs. I'll get into all that in the review. I'm very please thus far. I hope to be riding the crap out of it next week at the camp. Don't know for sure cause the family wants to go to the beach.

All you're going to get out of me right now is "wow!"

Oh yeah, I'll also say that working on the clutch is easier than replacing a CV Boot by FAAAR. You just need an extra set of hands when working with the driven (secondary) pully. That spring has some serious presure on it. :angry9:

 

[kamnster]

Nice post and who may need that higher stall