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Benz Quiet Muffler Add-on ... Not so sure
Gunny
05-27-2008
Before I get into my first impressions of the Benz Quiet Muffler Add-on .... let me tell you what I have added to the Grizz.

I installed a Leo Vince X3 pipe. Love the pipe. Love the sound. I have the quiet core in & it sounds great in the garage .... but out rid'in, the...
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By Gunny on 11-10-2008, 06:41 PM
Well, I have an update for anyone who's interested. I would like to say, I was scrolling down thru this thread, & all the pics are gone ?? ... Not sure why ??

Anyway, I'm going to write up what I did here & "Try" to attach some pics. Casue if the pics don't come thru, then the write up will be worthless.

OK, here's goes ... first, I took some 16ga metal & made an "Exhaust End" plate. I then drilled the required holes to bolt it to the Leo exhaust end. I then cut a large hole for the exhaust to exit .... lined up the Benz Silent Muffler adapter & opened up the hole to give me max exhaust flow.

Next I welded the Benz Silent Muffler adapter to the exhaust end plate. I welded both the entire outside & inside circumference of the adapter in hopes I wouldn't have any leaks. (I think I succeeded)

I then slipped on the Benz Silent Muffler & it seems to work just fine. I bolted it down, started the bike to check everything .... I didn't feel any leaks with my bare hands, so here's hoping.

I'm going out Wednesday to explore an old area, getting one more ride on tires before I go to tracks ... WOO HOO !!!!

Here's some pics of how it all looks.

Later ....
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Adapter Bolted On.JPG (170.4 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Slip Fit.JPG (170.9 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Looking Forward.JPG (172.2 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg Bolted on with Rubber Spacer.JPG (171.0 KB, 3 views)
File Type: jpg How it Looks from the Rear.JPG (174.6 KB, 5 views)
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By BATTLEGUN on 11-10-2008, 07:05 PM
I'm not trying to be an arse here, but this sure does seem like a lot of work to make a quad quiet. Most people work like this to get the opposite...loud.

If I ever put an exhaust on my Outy, I will def. keep the stocker handy for the quiet season. This ATV is relatively quiet in the stock form (but you can def hear the V-Twin working). Sounds kinda like a sport bike.

Anyhow, what's done is done. I hope you get the Benz working the way it should. Keep us posted.
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By Gunny on 11-10-2008, 07:54 PM
So, tell me Battlegun ... where are ya try'in to be an arse ?? ... LOL !!!!

First, you have to remember, the Benz muffler is designed to work with a "Stock" exhaust. So, if ya have a stock muffler & buy a Benz, it goes right on ... no worries !
Now, if your a lucky SOB like BusterW was, it will slip right onto your after market pipe ... the Bast%#$ !!!

I knew up front I would have to "Customize" it when I bought it cause I had the Leo Vince pipe. Heck, what I did to make it work ain't nothing dude .... I paid $3500.00 for tracks & you ought to see what I had to do to them to make me feel happy. Jeez, took me all summer.

Besides, beats the heck outta watch'in the tube .... & gives me something to post on the forum .... WHAT ??

Later ....
Last edited by Gunny; 11-10-2008 at 07:58 PM.
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By BATTLEGUN on 11-10-2008, 08:05 PM
What I was implying is that woudn't it be easier to just reinstall the the stock pipe? Even if you reinstall the stocker with the benz it beats ripping up a great aftermarket pipe. JMHO.
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By Gunny on 11-10-2008, 08:23 PM
Now after I bought a really nice after market exhaust system, why in the H*ll would I wanta put that stock can on ??

And before ya go ..."Well, so ya can use that dang quite muffler ya spent to much damn money on stupid !" ..... my stock exhaust can developed a very large & long crack in it. So it was toast !

Besides .... I like to tinker.


Later ...
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By BATTLEGUN on 11-10-2008, 08:58 PM
Nothing wrong with tinkering. I'm just playing devils advocate.
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By Gunny on 11-10-2008, 11:06 PM
Well, I don't know about the Advocate part ..... but .........

As for tinkering .... it CAN get expensive .... Savvy ??

Later ...
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By 1Bad1000Xxc on 11-11-2008, 10:36 AM
Well Gunny, I gotta be on your side on this one. It's a hell of a lot easier to slip the Benz on than it is to swap pipes. Plus, if you're like me, the Benz may only be on when you go hunting or when you wanna slip in somewhere incognito. Other times, I don't want it on.

So, if I need it, I grab a socket and the bolts and have it on in under a minute. When I'm done, it's back off in the same time and I have my loud exhaust back, just the way I like it. Screw swapping exhaust all the time.

Now some folks may be different and for hunting season, may just put there factory exhaust back on and leave it on the entire season. Not me. I'll never go back to factory exhaust.
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By BATTLEGUN on 11-11-2008, 11:38 AM
No need to take sides.

I was just offering a solution to cutting and drilling a $300-$400 dollar performance exhaust. I can't speak for the Grizz 700 but the 660 pipe is super easy to put on and take off. At least it was for me when I installed a HMF Utility on on a Grizz 660. The only thing I had to do was take the engine panel off and turn some bolts. And if the carbed machine is running a DAJ it would be simple as turning the dial to adjust the jetting for the new restriction.

Of course if the silencer fits on the exhaust without any issues then my suggestion is not even valid. And if someone just wants to tinker...tinker on.
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By Gunny on 11-11-2008, 06:23 PM
OMG !!! .... BusterW agreed with me on one ?? ... Let me catch my breath for a minute .... OK, I'm good ! ....

BusterW ... I tried the Benz muffler on the Leo pipe earlier this summer. I adapted the Leo end plate, which I feel, helped slow the flow a little, & was pretty darn quiet.

Now with this "Custom" end I made, as you can tell from the pics ... it's max flow. The exhaust tone seems louder than I remember, but it's still pretty quiet. Quieter than the Leo Quiet Core anyway.

So I'm go'in rid'in tomorrow & I'll see what I think. If I like it, it doesn't seem to hurt performace any .... I may leave it on all the time. But it'll either be the Benz muffler or the Leo Quiet core. I rode last weekend with the Loud core & it got to me after a while.

Battlegun ... maybe I didn't make it very clear, but I didn't have to modify the Leo pipe in any way. What I did was, I removed the Leo end plate, & exhaust tip ... made a new end plate out of some 16ga flat metal, & welded the Benz adapter (that would bolt onto the stock Grizzly 660 can) to the new end plate.
I then bolted that to the Leo exhaust can using the factory screws. So I didn't change the Leo pipe in any way ... just added the Benz muffler .... just like ya would to a stock exhaust.

Later...
Last edited by Gunny; 11-11-2008 at 06:25 PM.
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