Stoked about my Renegade 800 Airdam clutch setup

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Well Airdam received my clutches today, primary and secondary. He has already worked my secondary and is currently working on the primary.

He told me tonight on another Renegade 800 he did, he got a 16MPH increase on the top end including the low to mid range power gains. That quad topped out at 92mph at 8100 rpms with a 1026 motor in it. HOLY DOOKIE!!!!!

Mine will arrive back home Friday so I will install Friday evening and test it out.

Hold on bitches, this is gonna be a ride!!!


Buster

[topgun09]

You dont have the balls to see if you gain that kinda top end. You are going to friggin kill yourself with this new mod! By the way, I never saw a "Cyclone" this weekend. Why not?

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Cuz i was being a pansy!!!!

Originally Posted by topgun09

by the way, i never saw a "cyclone" this weekend. Why not?

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Ya know, I rolled it 3 weeks ago and my back hurts worse now than it did a couple days after. Think I pinched a nerve. It sux. I will jump back on the horse once my back heals.

Since you weren't there at the moment to witness, this is what I did, but on dirt (skip forward to 1 minute, 20 seconds):

YouTube- Rolling my 09' Can-Am Renegade 800R

[chickie]

Well hows that new clutching, very curious if this is the way to go, do I get them to do it all or do I buy the Dalton kit first? Can't wait to hear how it works

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Well so far it seems real good. I am going to be drag racing our other identical renegade this weekend that has just the dalton kit in it and really see how much difference it makes. Out of the hole it is much peppier. Where I could previously pop a wheelie on a dry grass area by my house, now when I try, it just blows the back tires out. On asphalt or concrete, it pops a wheelie much easier than before with no body english and me sitting mid-seat. The reason I would previously have had to use body english to pop a wheelie is because I have right at 60lbs of winch mount plate and winch mounted in the front bumper, which is a lot of weight up there.

So, I will know more after the weekend if the rain will get outta town so we can do some testing.

I will post back.

BTW, what kinda quad do you have?

I already had the dalton kit and in the Renegade he has to use at least 3 dalton weights. So, if you don't already have them, I don't know if he will have to sell you some, and they are $60 from can-am, or if he will just change the weight on on your factory weights.

Buster

[///AIRDAM]

well to be honest with you, when doing the can-am clutches i prefer using the stock primary and secondary springs. the added spring pressures of the name brand kits actually hurt your upshift speed after my machining because of the surfacing i put on the clutches. the extra stiff springs provide extra clamping force against the belt to keep your belt from slipping in a factory clutch setup. since the clutches are slick as glass the belt will slip excessively with a powerful engine such as most of the can-ams have. so my soloution is by surfacing the primary and secondary to eliminate the belt slip without the need of super stiff springs. if you keep the stiff secondary spring in after my machining and surfacing it will actually hinder your acceleration speeds because the belt cant freely move up and down the sheaves because the stiff secondary spring is holding so much belt tension and slowing the bike down. i had thought about telling you that buster after you got the clutches back. the stiff springs you are running will get you a higher stall rate, but actually slow the upshift down and hurt your acceleration. if you change the secondary spring out to the factory one you will likely pick up some acceleration back and make the bike even faster.

[BATTLEGUN]

Wow. Now that is someone who knows CVT. So if I understand correctly (which usually isn't the case ) Dalton weights/rollers with the stock springs, and the AIRDAM resurfacing is the ticket for maxium punch. If this is correct, what weight set-up are you using? Or is that top secret?

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Adam, I am actually running the stock secondary spring but per your recommendation, the Dalton primary spring since that was what was giving me the 7300 shiftout primary to me sending my setup to you.

I was talking to Jeff @ The BomRacing and he said I need to put my stock primary spring back in, but that it was gonna lower my current 7300 RPM shiftout and that we would have to redo my weights to get the shiftout back up to 7300-7400. He said if I put the stock primary spring back in, that shiftout was going to lower back down and that the Renegades make the most power around 7300-7400. Therefore, until I got the weights redone, I would be loosing power.

What do you think?

Thanks Adam!
Buster

Originally Posted by ///AIRDAM

well to be honest with you, when doing the can-am clutches i prefer using the stock primary and secondary springs. the added spring pressures of the name brand kits actually hurt your upshift speed after my machining because of the surfacing i put on the clutches. the extra stiff springs provide extra clamping force against the belt to keep your belt from slipping in a factory clutch setup. since the clutches are slick as glass the belt will slip excessively with a powerful engine such as most of the can-ams have. so my soloution is by surfacing the primary and secondary to eliminate the belt slip without the need of super stiff springs. if you keep the stiff secondary spring in after my machining and surfacing it will actually hinder your acceleration speeds because the belt cant freely move up and down the sheaves because the stiff secondary spring is holding so much belt tension and slowing the bike down. i had thought about telling you that buster after you got the clutches back. the stiff springs you are running will get you a higher stall rate, but actually slow the upshift down and hurt your acceleration. if you change the secondary spring out to the factory one you will likely pick up some acceleration back and make the bike even faster.

[GRIZZLYWIZARD]

Great information Airdam.

Are you considering on ever doing any work to the Polaris machines, most specifically the RZR?