What do you think of the new 2010 Can Am ATV Lineup?

**GRIZZLYWIZARD** · #1 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 09:43 AM

What is your opinion of the new 2010 Can Am ATV Lineup?

Mack450 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 11:17 AM

If they had a better frame and yamaha reliability i'd buy one

**BATTLEGUN** · #3 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack450

If they had a better frame and yamaha reliability i'd buy one

Other than price, I like the new line-up. That's not to say it couldn't have been better.

Mack450 · #4 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BATTLEGUN

Other than price, I like the new line-up. That's not to say it couldn't have been better.

I am with ya. I did like it for the most part. Just wish they had a bit more toughness.

**3TV** · #5 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 11:55 AM

FWIW, we break more shit on our Grizzly than we do on the Can Am.

stray · #6 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 12:20 PM

i can't believe i'm the only one who could care less about power steering, and wants a bigger motor! i like power steering in my cars, my pickup and the tractor-trailer that i drive. i just don't understand why it's necessary on an atv? are dirt bikes next?

for years, i rode a full-time 4WD foreman and it had it's moments where steering took a little effort, so maybe i'm a little more adept at maneuvering through the trails now. for what it's worth, my 14 year old daughter, who's 5'7" and weights 120 lbs. can operate the foreman pretty well when her bayou is down. i'm sure she'd prefer power steering, though.

as for more power, i agree that the 800 is powerful, but i'm always gonna look for more. i rarely see the opportunity to max out the top end, but more bottom end grunt would be awesome. i'd feel more comfortable running larger tires with a little more oomph.

Mack450 · #7 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 3TV

FWIW, we break more shit on our Grizzly than we do on the Can Am.

I don't know what kind of riding you guys do but in our group the outlander 400 and 800 are always the ones broken. They break something new every weekend.

**BATTLEGUN** · #8 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stray

i can't believe i'm the only one who could care less about power steering, and wants a bigger motor! i like power steering in my cars, my pickup and the tractor-trailer that i drive. i just don't understand why it's necessary on an atv? are dirt bikes next?

for years, i rode a full-time 4WD foreman and it had it's moments where steering took a little effort, so maybe i'm a little more adept at maneuvering through the trails now. for what it's worth, my 14 year old daughter, who's 5'7" and weights 120 lbs. can operate the foreman pretty well when her bayou is down. i'm sure she'd prefer power steering, though.

as for more power, i agree that the 800 is powerful, but i'm always gonna look for more. i rarely see the opportunity to max out the top end, but more bottom end grunt would be awesome. i'd feel more comfortable running larger tires with a little more oomph.

Power steering is an awesome innovation. I just think it's cool. Not saying I can't do without it. Obviously I can cause I've never had it. LOL. As far as the power goes, I say the 800R is plenty strong. Not to say I wouldn't want to ride a larger bore, just not because I think it's needed, but just because. Low end oomph...I'm hoping the Dalton Kit I'm going to install will help in that department. Bull750 made some very good observations when racing a outlander 800 with his BF750.

**GRIZZLYWIZARD** · #9 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 03:55 PM

Well stray, I was one of the naysayers when Yamaha released the EPS on the Grizzly. I never bought it because of EPS, simply because of the Grizzly reliability. But once I had the power steering I always said I would have trouble doing without it. Can I live without it? Most certainly. But there are some situations where EPS is very handy and it offeres very little negative effect to the machine. Additionally, the power steering behaves much like a steering damper, you get much less feedback into the handlebars that you do with one without. Heritage1, captjack, Hebs and myself will typically ride 100-125 miles a day. 3 of us have 700 Grizzlies, one has a 750 BF. Guess who is fastest? Guess who is the most tired? Both answers are the same. All I am saying is that the EPS is a great feature for some. For others it's no big deal.

Am I defending power steering on an ATV? Yes I guess I am, I think it is a fantastic ad on and will also allow certain other groups who would normally be prevented from participating in out sport to enjoy it also. I had predicted once the by 2010 every ATV on the market would have this, we are only waiting for Kawasaki to step it up.

stray · #10 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009, 02:21 AM

i hear what you're sayin, GW. i just had different expectations, i guess. you're 100% correct in that it will allow some riders who normally would be unable to control these machines to ride, however there is a down side. alot of the atv accidents that garner media attention result from inexperienced riders (usually children) who attempt to make turns at a speed that is too high, causing a rollover. i'm not saying the PS will make that any worse, but it may make it easier for inexperienced riders to lose control. i certainly hope not, but i do feel it is a concern. i also agree with your comment regarding the dampening effect. but, it seems the manufacturers skipped over the idea of simply adding a steering stabilizer and went right to PS. i imagine the average buyer would laugh at the idea of a $500 price increase for a steering stabilizer. although, those of us who have them would probably never own another atv without one. i haven't heard many comments about the front torsion bar - what does everyone think about it?