Outlander/Renegade frame mods

[MadMac]

Stray, I put a dent in the frame early on, and just rode it anyways. Then I went for a nice trip to the mountains, and that is where I know I did damage, with rocks, stumps, and other various obsticles. I still didn't have any skids. I wish I had some pics, as I couldn't believe what had happened, behind the motor in front of the brake. I don't know for sure, but I think I'm going to use some plate on the underside, probably somewhere around 1/4". It's probably overkill, but after seeing what happened to mine, and hearing about others, I will definetly mod. the frame.

[Mack450]

Originally Posted by BATTLEGUN

No where in my post did I say that riding had to be grampy style. If I had the time, skill, and desire, I would ride in GNCC with my quad if it had skids. I would do the same with a Grizz if it had skids, or a brute if it had skids.

And no, I don't ride my quad as much as you GW. Not by choice but by schedule. It doesn't change what I said though.

I think ya'll are taking my comment(s) out of context and acting like

Sorry...I didn't mean to be rude or fire ya up. I was just trying to say if I was going to pay 10K for a quad I would want it to perform and not have vital ($$$$) parts of it breaking/bending.

[BATTLEGUN]

Originally Posted by Mack450

Sorry...I didn't mean to be rude or fire ya up. I was just trying to say if I was going to pay 10K for a quad I would want it to perform and not have vital ($$$$) parts of it breaking/bending.

No worries Mack, you didn't fire me up. If that's all it would take to get me going then I'd would have had a stroke years ago. It just gets old defending the Can-Am from the skeptics. That's all.

Oh, BTW, isn't the new YFZ450R frame very similiar to the Can-Ams?

[GRIZZLYWIZARD]

Originally Posted by BATTLEGUN

No worries Mack, you didn't fire me up. If that's all it would take to get me going then I'd would have had a stroke years ago. It just gets old defending the Can-Am from the skeptics. That's all.

Oh, BTW, isn't the new YFZ450R frame very similiar to the Can-Ams?

I think it is similar as well as many of the sport quad frames. But there are half the weight.

FWIW 3TV said something to the effect of frame damage in another post. He is right with the right physics involved, any frame can be easily bent. I saw a KFX frame get bent pretty easily too.

I landed a quad wrong, never wrecked and never left the quad; but I tweaked the frame a little when it happened.

[Mack450]

I jump my grizz pretty hard and I am no little dude. Over 2000 miles on the grizz now and my frame is fine :P

[stray]

can-am ATV forums - can-amTalk.com

[heritage1]

can am made a light frame that works . if you push it like everything else it hase its limits. I have an 08 brute force I broke the frame after riding in southern WV on a down hill switcthback trail. Thank god for warranty work. I pushed the bike past the threshhold and it broke, every quad has one. finding it is where the fun begins.

[3TV]

You can bend or break anything if you try hard enough. I tweaked the frame on our first Grizzly 700 while riding the WORCS course in Monticello, UT a few years back. I'm not sure what I did to bend the frame, but I was pushing the Grizzly hard enough to keep up with my then 17 year old son on his open class dirt bike, including some big air off the 40 foot long table top jumps. I'm not sure where the frame bent, but it tweaked it bad enough that I could not get the quad out of high range without taking the plastic off and completely re-adjusting the shift linkage.

I also bent the frame on our current Grizzly 700, but this time just the small flat supports that go between the front frame tubes, from hitting rocks with only the stock plastic skid plates to protect them.

I have not bent the frame on my Can Am, and ride it every bit as hard as any other machine. But with the Can Am I put Ricochet skid plates on it on day one. It should be common sense that the Can Am frame needs a skid plate. Just look at it, and you should know that much, so I don't know why Can Am even lets them out of their factory without a skidplate on every machine they make. That center spar is just too wide and made from too thin of material not to dent if it smacks a rock or stump at any kind of speed at all.

What I would do if I were contemplating buying a Can Am is this: If it is a "regular" Can Am, put a set of Ricochet skids on it, and you're good to go. If it is a Renegade X or a Renegade X xc then use the OEM skid plates, and do the frame mod. The frame mod is a whole lot cheaper than a set of Ricochet skids, and when combined with the OEM skids it would be plenty strong. I would also suspect that the frame mod and OEM skids is roughly the same weight as a set of Ricochet skids without the frame mod.

3TV

[1Bad1000Xxc]

Good points noted Phil. However, I ahve an X and I put Ricochet skids on it as soon as I got it. The factory X skids are minimal at best. It is insane that they considered that an added benefit of the X. They should be included on the basic Renegade but it's all in the money. If they don't include them, they figure people may spend the outrageous price tag they have for them. The thickness is OK but not like Ricochets by any means and the coverage on the factory X skids is nothing. However, it is great comapred to the skids on the basic Renegade which is none.

With either the basic Rene or the X, I think the Ricochets are the way to go without a doubt.

My only disslike about the Ricochet skids is that although they offer almost complete bottom protection, they don't offer a rear differential protector. So, I had to buy that from Can-Am. I asked them as to why they didn't and they said something about not having a way to give enough support to it. I've had no problems with my BRP one at all and it is welll supported.

So I recommend Ricochet skids and a BRP rear diff guard.

Buster